Sheikh Abu 'Abd Allah Muhammad ibn Saalih ibn Muhammad ibn al-Uthaymeen at-Tamimi (Arabic: أبو عبد الله محمد بن صالح بن محمد بن سليمان بن عبد الرحمن العثيمين التميمي) (March 9, 1925 – January 10, 2001)
Sheikh Muhammad ibn Salih al-Uthaymeen has opined on Tablighi jamaat in these words.
رأي الشيخين ابن باز وابن عثيمين في شأن جماعة الدعوة والتبلي
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موقف العلامة فضيلة الشيخ/ محمد بن صالح العثيمين رحمه الله من جماعة التبليغ وثناءه عليهم والحث على خروج طلبة العلم معهم وجواز خروج العامّة معهم:رأي الشيخين ابن باز وابن عثيمين في شأن جماعة الدعوة والتبلي
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س (20 ) اللقاء العاشر من لقاءت الباب المفتوح في أول خميس من شهر جمادى الأولى عام 1413هـ:
فضيلة الشيخ المسألة وما فيها جماعة الدعوة الذين يخرجون ثلاث أيام هم جماعة التبليغ والدعوة المهم يا شيخ أنا بدأت الالتزام قريبا ، ومضطرب في هذا الأمر فيه بعض الشباب من الأخوان في عفيف يقول : لا تمشي لا تتبع الجماعة هذه ، ما أدري ، وفيه بعض العلماء في المدينة لا أذكر اسم هذا العالم قال : نصحني بالخروج معها ، فما رأي فضيلتكم في ذلك ؟
الجواب : الغالب أن كل المسائل يكون الناس فيها طرفين ووسطا من الناس من يثني على هؤلاء كثيرا وينصح بالخروج معهم ، ومنهم من يحذر منهم كما يحذر من الأسد ، ومنهم متوسط وأنا أرى أنّ الجماعة فيهم خير وفيهم دعوة ولهم تأثير لم ينله احد من الدعاة ، تأثيرهم واضح كم من فاسق هداه الله؟ وكم من كافر آمن ؟ ثم طبائعهم تواضع ، خلق ، إيثار ، ليس هو يوجد في الكثيرين ، ومن يقول أنهم ليس عندهم علم حديث أو سلف أو ما أشبه ذلك ، هم أهل خير ولاشك ، لكني أرى أن الذين يوجدون في المملكة لا يذهبون إلى باكستان وغيرها من البلاد الأخرى ، لأننا لا ندري عن عقائد أولئك ولا ندري عن مناهجهم ، لكن المنهج الذي عليه أصحابنا هنا في المملكة منهج لا غبار عليه ،وليس فيه شيء ، وأما تقيد الدعوة بثلاث أيام أو أربعة أيام أو شهرين أو أربعة اشهر أو ستة أو سنتين فهذه ما لها وجه ، ولكنهم هم يرون أن هذا من باب التنظيم ، وانه إذا خرج ثلاثة أيام وعرف انه مقيد بهذا الأيام الثلاثة استقام وعزف عن الدنيا ، فهذه مسالة تنظيمية ما هي بشرع ، ما هي عبادة ، فأرى بارك الله فيك إن كان لك اتجاه لطلب العلم أفضل لك ، لان طلب العلم فيه خير ، والناس الآن محتاجون لعلماء أهل سنة راسخين في العلم ، وان كان ما عندك قدرة على طلب العلم وخرجت معهم لأجل أن تصفي نفسك فهذا لا بأس به ، وفيه كثيرون هداهم الله عز وجل على أيديهم 0
Translation
Question: I have started to become committed recently, praise be to Allaah. In our area there is the Jamaa?at al-Tableegh, who go out for thirty days or more. People say different things about them. Some say, don't go out with them, because their going out is an innovation (bidah) and they have some mistaken ideas. Others advised me to go out with them. What is the correct view concerning that? Should I go out with them or not?.
Question: I have started to become committed recently, praise be to Allaah. In our area there is the Jamaa?at al-Tableegh, who go out for thirty days or more. People say different things about them. Some say, don't go out with them, because their going out is an innovation (bidah) and they have some mistaken ideas. Others advised me to go out with them. What is the correct view concerning that? Should I go out with them or not?.
HIS ANSWER (Al-Baab al-Maftooh, no. 10, P. 304.)
Answer: Praise be to Allaah. We have already discussed this group and some of their pros and cons.
Usually in every issue there are two extremes and a middle way. Some people praise this group a great deal and encourage going out with them; others condemn them a great deal and warn against them more than they would warn you about a lion. And some people tread a middle path between those two extremes.
I think that there is some good in this group; they call others to Islam and have a clear influence that no other daaiyahs have had. Many kaafirs have become believers at their hands, and many evil doers has Allaah guided through them.
Moreover they have an attitude of humility and selflessness that is not found in many others.
Some people say that they have no knowledge of hadeeth, and so on.
They are undoubtedly good people, but I think that those of them who are in Saudi do not go to Pakistan or other countries, and we do not know anything about the aqeedah of those people (in other countries) or their manhaj (methodology). But there is nothing wrong with the manhaj followed by our companions here in Saudi.
With regard to limiting dawah to three or four days, or to two or four or six months, or two years, there is no sharaee evidence for that. But they think that this has to do with organization (of groups). If a person goes out for three days, and knows that he is limited to these three days, he will focus his mind and forget about worldly matters.
This is the matter of organization, and is not an act of worship or a matter of shareeah.
This is the matter of organization, and is not an act of worship or a matter of shareeah.
I think, may Allaah bless you, that if you have the opportunity to seek knowledge then it is better to do that, because seeking knowledge is good and the people nowadays have a great need for scholars who have knowledge of the Sunnah and who are well-versed in knowledge.
If you are not able to seek knowledge, and you go out with them in order to purify yourself, there is nothing wrong with that.
There are many people whom Allaah has guided at their hands.
If you are not able to seek knowledge, and you go out with them in order to purify yourself, there is nothing wrong with that.
There are many people whom Allaah has guided at their hands.
And Allaah is the Source of strength
Al-Baab al-Maftooh, no. 10, P. 304.
Al-Baab al-Maftooh, no. 10, P. 304.
Below is Another talk of Shaykh Uthaymeen (RA) on Tableeghi Jamaat Answering some question:
This video is available on following link
Rough Translation of the video with Shaikh Ibn Uthaimeen ![Rahim](file:///E:/salafi%20on%20tablighi%20jamaat/salafi%20scholars%20on%20tj6_files/rahim.gif)
Questioner: I have a question O Shaikh on the Tablighi Jamaa’ah.Their movement is (indistinct)… (indistinct)…from the ikhwan.
Shiakh Uthaimeen: They are not from the ikhwan.
Questioner: This O Shaikh, I don’t know...(indistinct)
Shaikh Uthaimeen: Clarify (the question) for me so that I can answer you.
Questioner: (About) This, O Shaikh, like they have Al-khurooj (leaving out), they go amongst people giving da’wah for Allah. And they have a need like for example…
Shaikh Uthaimeen: (it’s) a sunnah of Rasulullah Sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam
Questioner: (it’s) a Sunnah of Rasulullah Sallallahu ‘alahi wa sallam but O Shaikh, for example they have for khurooj (leaving out) in a month 3 days, they go to another city, they gather with the people so that(?) you can be like them. They revive the sunan, O Shaikh. So the people oppose them and they say, ‘This is bid’ah (an innovation). Who brought khurooj like this? This was not mentioned by Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam . Rasulullah Sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: ‘Whoever brings something new into this affair of ours which is not from it, then it will be rejected’. They say this is bid’ah. How did all of you bring this…(indistinct)? And some people support them and people oppose them. And this, O Shaikh, they’re not just in one town.
Shaikh Uthaimeen: They say the people are standing up so you can say…moderately delighted (farhani wasat?)
Questioner: Right O Shaikh.
Questioner: And they like, in every town they have (these) two varieties (of people). And maybe one gets engaged with them, they are many people, O Shaikh. For example they have, O Shaikh, (al’asad?) like, they gather together and appoint one group, (like) your group visits another town and your group visits another town.
Shaikh Uthaimeen: Like a tarteeb (format).
Questioner: (Yes like) a tarteeb, O Shaikh.
Shaikh Uthaimeen: As for going for giving da’wah to people, So your Prophet Sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam in the days of the season of hajj used to go around to the people in their residence and give da’wah.
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Questioner: I have a question O Shaikh on the Tablighi Jamaa’ah.Their movement is (indistinct)… (indistinct)…from the ikhwan.
Shiakh Uthaimeen: They are not from the ikhwan.
Questioner: This O Shaikh, I don’t know...(indistinct)
Shaikh Uthaimeen: Clarify (the question) for me so that I can answer you.
Questioner: (About) This, O Shaikh, like they have Al-khurooj (leaving out), they go amongst people giving da’wah for Allah. And they have a need like for example…
Shaikh Uthaimeen: (it’s) a sunnah of Rasulullah Sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam
Questioner: (it’s) a Sunnah of Rasulullah Sallallahu ‘alahi wa sallam but O Shaikh, for example they have for khurooj (leaving out) in a month 3 days, they go to another city, they gather with the people so that(?) you can be like them. They revive the sunan, O Shaikh. So the people oppose them and they say, ‘This is bid’ah (an innovation). Who brought khurooj like this? This was not mentioned by Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam . Rasulullah Sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: ‘Whoever brings something new into this affair of ours which is not from it, then it will be rejected’. They say this is bid’ah. How did all of you bring this…(indistinct)? And some people support them and people oppose them. And this, O Shaikh, they’re not just in one town.
Shaikh Uthaimeen: They say the people are standing up so you can say…moderately delighted (farhani wasat?)
Questioner: Right O Shaikh.
Questioner: And they like, in every town they have (these) two varieties (of people). And maybe one gets engaged with them, they are many people, O Shaikh. For example they have, O Shaikh, (al’asad?) like, they gather together and appoint one group, (like) your group visits another town and your group visits another town.
Shaikh Uthaimeen: Like a tarteeb (format).
Questioner: (Yes like) a tarteeb, O Shaikh.
Shaikh Uthaimeen: As for going for giving da’wah to people, So your Prophet Sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam in the days of the season of hajj used to go around to the people in their residence and give da’wah.
This is one (thing). And he (Sallallu ‘alaihi wa sallam) made hijrah to Madinah for Da’wah. Because Makkah, as it is well known, its people were enemies and prevented him from da’wah. So he was ordered to make hijrah to Madinah, for completing the da’wah. There is nothing wrong with this.(Indistinct talk)…
Shaikh Uthaimeen: Be patient. Let us take (questions) little by little so that we give (answers) little by little. This is the shore of da’wah. (saifid da’wah?)
Shaikh Uthaimeen: Be patient. Let us take (questions) little by little so that we give (answers) little by little. This is the shore of da’wah. (saifid da’wah?)
As for its (the Jamaa’ah’s) tarteeb of 3 days or 40 days or 6 months so they say: We don’t say this is sunnah. We say this is tarteeb, a means for establishing da’wah. And the one using the means what does he get?
Are we not now using the microphone?... Answer (the question)…(indistinct talk)..Good. Did Rasulullah Sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam use a microphone? It wasn’t available (then).
The microphone wasn’t available to begin with. He did not say don’t give sermons using means. And if Rasulullah Sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam didn’t know that there will be microphones then Rabb ‘azza wa jall knew.
So as for the means and the means of ibaadaat, the purpose is not for its self, verily it’s for something else.
So they say: We say go out for 3 days in order to move away from the dunya and its pleasures. And we want to concentrate on spending one’s time for dhikr and tasbeeh and reading the Qur’an and what’s associated with that.
And as for the regional tarteeb, every person goes to one area. So for this also there is nothing wrong with it. When a people that gather together in one area, or people who separate, which one of them is (indistinct)?.... Astonishing group. (Indistinct talk) Are they people who separate or not? Because (there’s) more capacity for spreading out. And when they all gather together and they are 40 or 50 men, no one speaks except one (person), or 2 or 5. So their dividing on areas is no problem. And here Nabi Sallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam would send one (Sahabi) to Yemen and one to another area for da’wah to the people. Did you understand? Then it is no problem.
If we go back to the effects (of the Jamaa’ah) then it is my conviction that no one from any area or any party or any group has made an effect like their effect. For them there is an amazing effect. How many thalims were guided through them? How many fasiqs were guided? No, how many kafirs became Muslim (through them)? It is said that they guide (people in) an airplane in an airport that is (indistinct) in a country of atheism. Then the mu’adhin calls the adhan and they establish salah in congregation in front of the people. Who is capable of doing this?...